2013-01-16 00:20.05 Gurke_HotelWLAN: when ppl will buy them, VW will produce them
2013-01-16 00:20.13 dU.Commander_ITA: should be nice, but Hydrogen is out
2013-01-16 00:20.14 tr0y:register me
2013-01-16 00:20.28 dU.Commander_ITA: is not ecologic
2013-01-16 00:20.30 tr0y:i wont buy a car until there is an ecologic one
2013-01-16 00:20.31 Gurke_HotelWLAN: as long as ppl buy high power engines these are produced
2013-01-16 00:20.41 Gurke_HotelWLAN: define cological car
2013-01-16 00:20.45 dU.Commander_ITA: must be forbidden for law
2013-01-16 00:20.49 tr0y:sustainable
2013-01-16 00:20.56 Gurke_HotelWLAN: define sustainable car
2013-01-16 00:21.00 tr0y:ok
2013-01-16 00:21.14 dU.Commander_ITA: ok , talk time!
2013-01-16 00:21.16 dU.Commander_ITA: !s
2013-01-16 00:21.22 dU.Commander_ITA::D
2013-01-16 00:21.26 tr0y:first of all it shouldnt use oilbased fuel
2013-01-16 00:21.38 tr0y:neither it should use plantbased fuel
2013-01-16 00:21.40 Gurke_HotelWLAN: not at all? ort just not only
2013-01-16 00:21.45 tr0y:not at all
2013-01-16 00:22.16 Gurke_HotelWLAN: oil is plantbased, besides ppl would starve if plants were used for fuel and not for food
2013-01-16 00:22.25 tr0y:thats why
2013-01-16 00:22.31 tr0y:i said
2013-01-16 00:22.35 tr0y:no plantbased
2013-01-16 00:22.42 Player5: can plants be used for both feul and food?
2013-01-16 00:22.48 tr0y:i differed between oil and plants
2013-01-16 00:23.15 tr0y:cause i the trend to monoculturale plantages
2013-01-16 00:23.17 dU.Commander_ITA:difficoult use for buth without influencing prices
2013-01-16 00:23.29 tr0y:is the wrong way
2013-01-16 00:23.53 dU.Commander_ITA:BTW, solar is out, Hydrogen is out
2013-01-16 00:23.57 tr0y:hydrogen isnt ecological u said, comm?
2013-01-16 00:24.03 dU.Commander_ITA:tthe only chance at moment is electric
2013-01-16 00:24.15 Gurke_HotelWLAN: electric and hydrogen can be the same
2013-01-16 00:24.17 tr0y:what makes u think that
2013-01-16 00:24.20 dU.Commander_ITA:on large sense is not ecologic
2013-01-16 00:24.26 tr0y:ok
2013-01-16 00:24.28 Gurke_HotelWLAN: hydrogen is just a means of storing energy
2013-01-16 00:24.30 tr0y:how come
2013-01-16 00:24.41 dU.Commander_ITA:the conversion energy efficience
2013-01-16 00:24.49 tr0y:well
2013-01-16 00:24.51 dU.Commander_ITA:better use electric then Hydro
2013-01-16 00:24.58 tr0y:its always about soring energy
2013-01-16 00:25.02 tr0y:tstoring
2013-01-16 00:25.07 tr0y:lol
2013-01-16 00:25.16 tr0y:energy transduction
2013-01-16 00:25.26 tr0y:transformation
2013-01-16 00:25.28 dU.Commander_ITA:tyes but for Hydrogen you need to convert
2013-01-16 00:25.46 tr0y:where does the idea of hydrogen energy come from?
2013-01-16 00:25.49 Gurke_HotelWLAN: electricity you also need to convert
2013-01-16 00:25.49 dU.Commander_ITA:Electric -> Hydrogen - > mechanic
2013-01-16 00:25.59 dU.Commander_ITA:efficiency 20 %
2013-01-16 00:26.04 tr0y:from the oxygen using cells
2013-01-16 00:26.05 Gurke_HotelWLAN: where do you get the electricity from?
2013-01-16 00:26.11 dU.Commander_ITA:tif use electric directly efficiency 90 %
2013-01-16 00:26.13 tr0y:living cells
2013-01-16 00:26.17 tr0y:using membranes
2013-01-16 00:26.26 tr0y:to transform energy
2013-01-16 00:26.29 Gurke_HotelWLAN: living cells?
2013-01-16 00:26.30 tr0y:in steps
2013-01-16 00:26.31 dU.Commander_ITA:20 to 90 is a great difference
2013-01-16 00:26.32 tr0y:yes
2013-01-16 00:26.42 tr0y:the principle of hydrogen energy
2013-01-16 00:26.48 Gurke_HotelWLAN: on an indurtal scale? for the whole world? must be hell of a lot of cells
2013-01-16 00:26.49 tr0y:is how we use oxgen
2013-01-16 00:27.00 tr0y:look at ur body
2013-01-16 00:27.06 tr0y:how many cells do u have
2013-01-16 00:27.18 Gurke_HotelWLAN: how do you feed the cells?
2013-01-16 00:27.21 tr0y:in one body
2013-01-16 00:27.29 Player5: feed the cells with glucose
2013-01-16 00:27.29 tr0y:its not about that
2013-01-16 00:27.34 dU.Commander_ITA:living cells you mean from Sun, Troy?
2013-01-16 00:27.35 tr0y:its about
2013-01-16 00:27.37 Player5: glucose is sugar
2013-01-16 00:27.40 Gurke_HotelWLAN: wehere do you get the glucose?
2013-01-16 00:27.45 Player5: sugar
2013-01-16 00:27.46 Player5: food
2013-01-16 00:27.48 tr0y:how to transform huige amount of energy
2013-01-16 00:27.53 Gurke_HotelWLAN: you said it should not be plantbased
2013-01-16 00:27.54 tr0y:in small steps
2013-01-16 00:27.54 Player5: human cells
2013-01-16 00:28.01 tr0y:moment
2013-01-16 00:28.01 dU.Commander_ITA:tor organic transformation cells?
2013-01-16 00:28.06 dU.Commander_ITA:ok ok :)
2013-01-16 00:28.13 tr0y: longer sentences possible
2013-01-16 00:28.16 tr0y: lol#
2013-01-16 00:28.25 tr0y: well
2013-01-16 00:28.34 tr0y: i just wanted to pint out
2013-01-16 00:28.37 tr0y: point
2013-01-16 00:28.48 tr0y: that the principle of using hydrogen energy
2013-01-16 00:28.58 tr0y: is based on the principle living cells
2013-01-16 00:29.06 tr0y: do use in order to breath oxgebn
2013-01-16 00:29.13 tr0y: and use its energy
2013-01-16 00:29.18 tr0y: oxgen
2013-01-16 00:29.28 tr0y: the membranes
2013-01-16 00:29.29 Gurke_HotelWLAN: well... i can pwomise you you will never drive a car in your life that is run by living cells
2013-01-16 00:29.39 {NOC}Teppy: photosyntheses?
2013-01-16 00:29.42 tr0y: lol
2013-01-16 00:29.52 tr0y: i didnt say i want to drive a car with living cells
2013-01-16 00:29.55 tr0y: lol
2013-01-16 00:29.59 tr0y: but
2013-01-16 00:30.01 dU.Commander_ITA:i guess the point is produce Hydrogen and save it
2013-01-16 00:30.04 Gurke_HotelWLAN: I know
2013-01-16 00:30.13 tr0y: its an interesting imagination though
2013-01-16 00:30.18 dU.Commander_ITA:you with charge at distributor like fuel now
2013-01-16 00:30.33 tr0y: again
2013-01-16 00:30.38 tr0y: the hydrogen energy
2013-01-16 00:30.49 tr0y: is problematic for just one reason
2013-01-16 00:30.54 Gurke_HotelWLAN: yes if you had another planet with enough space and ressozces to grow enough plants to produce enough hydrogen to drive enough cars
2013-01-16 00:31.07 tr0y: do we need cars at all?
2013-01-16 00:31.12 Gurke_HotelWLAN: i do
2013-01-16 00:31.13 tr0y: NEED?
2013-01-16 00:31.17 Gurke_HotelWLAN: YES
2013-01-16 00:31.20 Gurke_HotelWLAN: I NEED
2013-01-16 00:31.21 tr0y: i doubt that^^
2013-01-16 00:31.27 dU.Commander_ITA:mmm maybe not so many anyway
2013-01-16 00:31.43 tr0y: its marketing
2013-01-16 00:31.48 tr0y: not really necessary
2013-01-16 00:31.49 dU.Commander_ITA:and of course not a 5000 volume car
2013-01-16 00:31.58 Gurke_HotelWLAN: If I drive by train it takes me 3h, plus taxi and transfer - 1h
2013-01-16 00:32.10 Gurke_HotelWLAN: by car i do it in 2:35h - door to door
2013-01-16 00:32.23 Gurke_HotelWLAN: 380km
2013-01-16 00:32.26 tr0y: what about phone?
2013-01-16 00:32.32 tr0y: or video conference?
2013-01-16 00:32.33 dU.Commander_ITA:hehehe
2013-01-16 00:32.46 Gurke_HotelWLAN: cant lead projects by phone only
2013-01-16 00:32.49 dU.Commander_ITA:well, good point
2013-01-16 00:33.05 tr0y: if its a project you dont need to travel that often
2013-01-16 00:33.08 dU.Commander_ITA:but the system is addicted to oil and car
2013-01-16 00:33.18 tr0y: its the imagination
2013-01-16 00:33.18 dU.Commander_ITA:need to modify it deeply i guess
2013-01-16 00:33.30 tr0y: of what we need and what we dont need
2013-01-16 00:33.38 Gurke_HotelWLAN: yes, but ppl want their cars and their mobility
2013-01-16 00:33.41 tr0y: the society needs a reboot
2013-01-16 00:33.43 dU.Commander_ITA:anyway we must, since we have anothere 40 years of oil
2013-01-16 00:33.54 tr0y: the world is living at an edge, gurke
2013-01-16 00:34.03 tr0y: we need to rethink
2013-01-16 00:34.06 Gurke_HotelWLAN: of course and we will, but at the moment its too early...
2013-01-16 00:34.14 tr0y: tits too late almost
2013-01-16 00:34.17 tr0y: tits lol
2013-01-16 00:34.18 dU.Commander_ITA:i think is too late instead
2013-01-16 00:34.38 dU.Commander_ITA:we had to plane it many years ago
2013-01-16 00:34.39 Gurke_HotelWLAN: true, but ppl wont change fast enough
2013-01-16 00:34.41 tr0y: urgent time to act and reconsider
2013-01-16 00:34.46 tr0y: we could
2013-01-16 00:34.49 tr0y: you could
2013-01-16 00:34.51 dU.Commander_ITA:that true
2013-01-16 00:34.56 tr0y: why not everybody else
2013-01-16 00:35.04 dU.Commander_ITA:but in few year fuel will cost a lot
2013-01-16 00:35.06 Gurke_HotelWLAN: i could, but iw would cost me money and time
2013-01-16 00:35.11 tr0y: and?
2013-01-16 00:35.18 Gurke_HotelWLAN: I like money and time...lol
2013-01-16 00:35.22 dU.Commander_ITA:it will be impossible to buy fuel like now
2013-01-16 00:35.26 tr0y: rethink
2013-01-16 00:35.32 tr0y: does it really cost u time?
2013-01-16 00:35.37 tr0y: or only money
2013-01-16 00:36.27 tr0y: and btw
2013-01-16 00:36.33 tr0y: i dont want to antagonize
2013-01-16 00:36.33 dU.Commander_ITA:China and India are using more and more oil everyday
2013-01-16 00:36.35 Gurke_HotelWLAN: yes train costs me 250 euro, thats 2hours - each way
2013-01-16 00:36.58 dU.Commander_ITA:soon or later we crash on a wall
2013-01-16 00:37.06 dU.Commander_ITA:oil finish
2013-01-16 00:37.10 tr0y: but do u need theis kind of job?
2013-01-16 00:37.23 Gurke_HotelWLAN: YES!
2013-01-16 00:37.26 tr0y: lol
2013-01-16 00:37.33 Gurke_HotelWLAN: I have an expensive girlfirend ;-)
2013-01-16 00:37.35 tr0y: i doubt that too^^
2013-01-16 00:37.41 tr0y: well
2013-01-16 00:37.44 dU.Commander_ITA:change GF, LOL
2013-01-16 00:37.53 Gurke_HotelWLAN: with 3 horses...and shit
2013-01-16 00:37.53 dU.Commander_ITA:hahah, just Kidding Gurke :P
2013-01-16 00:37.58 tr0y: haha
2013-01-16 00:38.30 dU.Commander_ITA:btw need to do something
2013-01-16 00:38.40 tr0y: good point
2013-01-16 00:38.40 Gurke_HotelWLAN: besides - i must admit...I just enjoy driving a fast car...I just like it - some like skiing I like speeding on the autobahn
2013-01-16 00:38.42 dU.Commander_ITA:or we get in trouble soon
2013-01-16 00:39.00 tr0y: its enjoyable
2013-01-16 00:39.04 tr0y: i know that
2013-01-16 00:39.14 tr0y: i transported porsches to italia
2013-01-16 00:39.20 Gurke_HotelWLAN: I am a 40 year old kid....
2013-01-16 00:39.24 Player5: enjoyable until you get an expensive ticket
2013-01-16 00:39.25 dU.Commander_ITA:cool
2013-01-16 00:39.39 tr0y: in the late 80s
2013-01-16 00:39.40 Gurke_HotelWLAN: wahts cool?
2013-01-16 00:39.41 dU.Commander_ITA:well gurke, you are not talking to teenagers :D
2013-01-16 00:39.51 tr0y: and
2013-01-16 00:39.57 dU.Commander_ITA:driving Porches to Italy
2013-01-16 00:40.01 tr0y: i really enjoyed driving them
2013-01-16 00:40.05 tr0y: but
2013-01-16 00:40.12 tr0y: i dont NEED that
2013-01-16 00:40.21 tr0y: my conscious tells me
2013-01-16 00:40.28 tr0y: that i have to choose
2013-01-16 00:40.28 dU.Commander_ITA:no matter, fast cars are cool, but need also responsability
2013-01-16 00:40.33 tr0y: yea
2013-01-16 00:40.42 tr0y: between whats enjoyable
2013-01-16 00:40.42 Gurke_HotelWLAN: of course
2013-01-16 00:40.46 tr0y: and what is necessary
2013-01-16 00:40.51 Gurke_HotelWLAN: i rarely get a speeding ticket....
2013-01-16 00:40.59 dU.Commander_ITA:lol
2013-01-16 00:41.00 tr0y: who cares anyway
2013-01-16 00:41.05 tr0y: its money only
2013-01-16 00:41.15 dU.Commander_ITA:i do
2013-01-16 00:41.19 tr0y: lol
2013-01-16 00:41.21 dU.Commander_ITA:we are Energy slaves
2013-01-16 00:41.31 tr0y: thats the nature of living beings
2013-01-16 00:41.37 Gurke_HotelWLAN: heheh
2013-01-16 00:41.47 tr0y: but
2013-01-16 00:41.57 tr0y: if u realize how much energy fusion brings
2013-01-16 00:42.00 Gurke_HotelWLAN: It all breaks down to this: we are the slaves of our sexes
2013-01-16 00:42.11 dU.Commander_ITA:that too :P
2013-01-16 00:42.19 tr0y: i am not
2013-01-16 00:42.22 tr0y: i was
2013-01-16 00:42.22 Piro: scheisse
2013-01-16 00:42.26 tr0y: lol piro
2013-01-16 00:42.37 dU.Commander_ITA:you meant CHeese Piro?
2013-01-16 00:42.38 Gurke_HotelWLAN: we want the premium pussy, so we get the premium jobs and cars and shit
2013-01-16 00:42.48 tr0y: yea
2013-01-16 00:42.51 tr0y: but its not that
2013-01-16 00:42.59 tr0y: we want to be attractive
2013-01-16 00:43.02 dU.Commander_ITA:even on that we have to think....
2013-01-16 00:43.06 tr0y: but not for GFs
2013-01-16 00:43.13 tr0y: its that we want relations
2013-01-16 00:43.19 tr0y: and sooner or later
2013-01-16 00:43.29 tr0y: when u realize that its not a real relation#
2013-01-16 00:43.32 tr0y: you can buy
2013-01-16 00:43.37 dU.Commander_ITA:i prefer a less attractive but...a trustfull Girl
2013-01-16 00:43.41 tr0y: you feel this desire again
2013-01-16 00:43.54 Gurke_HotelWLAN: yes i always do
2013-01-16 00:44.00 dU.Commander_ITA:girls with a brain
2013-01-16 00:44.04 tr0y: and you will never be able to buy it^^
2013-01-16 00:44.18 Gurke_HotelWLAN: i never feel peace with a girl..i always look over her shoulder for a new one...sad but true
2013-01-16 00:44.24 tr0y: i know
2013-01-16 00:44.26 1_Errors.: !open
2013-01-16 00:44.29 tr0y: its the nature
2013-01-16 00:44.39 tr0y: monogamy is a myth^^
2013-01-16 00:44.39 dU.Commander_ITA:is understandable Gurke
2013-01-16 00:44.42 Player5: once you are married, you will stop
2013-01-16 00:44.44 Gurke_HotelWLAN: yes - i have to spread my premium sperm :-)
2013-01-16 00:44.50 tr0y: omg
2013-01-16 00:44.53 Gurke_HotelWLAN: i was married
2013-01-16 00:44.56 dU.Commander_ITA:i not agree Player 5 , LOL
2013-01-16 00:44.57 Player5: and pay for those babies that result
2013-01-16 00:45.01 Gurke_HotelWLAN: once, for 5 months
2013-01-16 00:45.15 Piro: man skins du braucht?