2013-09-25 21:07.55 {MHM}BIOMECH: Well, I´m more sympathetic to it once the farming side is avoided
2013-09-25 21:08.10 DoDo: ohon
2013-09-25 21:08.12 Dem: depending on maps you don´t achieve recs the same way
2013-09-25 21:08.26 Dem: in long corridor it´s more or less proportional to player count
2013-09-25 21:08.30 Dem: because you have a ton of space
2013-09-25 21:08.40 Dem: or smaller maps like tges
2013-09-25 21:08.46 Dem: (not redux)
2013-09-25 21:08.49 Dem: you hit a cap
2013-09-25 21:08.51 {MHM}BIOMECH: lol
2013-09-25 21:08.54 DoDo: ~ LoL ~
2013-09-25 21:09.03 Dem: and player count doesn´t help much past this point
2013-09-25 21:09.10 Dem: 6-8 player maybe
2013-09-25 21:09.16 Dem: more only helps at bosses
2013-09-25 21:09.45 {MHM}BIOMECH: General idea being to get through the map with as few people dying as possible?
2013-09-25 21:10.00 Dem: time and score
2013-09-25 21:10.03 Ben_Isotope: than teamshot should be off..
2013-09-25 21:10.10 Dem: and score means as few deaths as possibles
2013-09-25 21:10.11 Dem: -s
2013-09-25 21:10.26 {MHM}BIOMECH: Hm
2013-09-25 21:10.35 Dem: sometimes we get rec with higher time but less deaths
2013-09-25 21:10.36 DoDo: i would prefer a bigger bonus for cleaning all monsters of amap :P
2013-09-25 21:10.39 DoDo: not for the time..
2013-09-25 21:10.50 Dem: recs would be meaningless without time
2013-09-25 21:11.04 Dem: i think the balancing is really good now
2013-09-25 21:11.11 Dem: maybe a bit too extreme on time on the first seconds
2013-09-25 21:11.18 Dem: since it´s a division formula
2013-09-25 21:11.37 {MHM}BIOMECH: Hmm
2013-09-25 21:11.44 {MHM}BIOMECH: At least on the not dying part we share goals
2013-09-25 21:12.05 Dem: you can die if it speeds up the map
2013-09-25 21:12.13 Dem: but then you have to take care not losing points
2013-09-25 21:12.13 DoDo: lol
2013-09-25 21:12.24 Dem: so players dying to objectives should be the ones with less points
2013-09-25 21:12.32 Dem: it´s like roles in the team
2013-09-25 21:12.39 {MHM}BIOMECH: Hm, there´s a whole metagame for you
2013-09-25 21:12.39 Dem: scouts that rush buttons
2013-09-25 21:12.47 Dem: and people that kill stuff behind
2013-09-25 21:13.03 {MHM}BIOMECH: I just go at my own pace and try to avoid dying
2013-09-25 21:13.03 Dem: usually ignorant noobs are even further away behind killing all the leftovers
2013-09-25 21:13.40 Dem: i´m just saying the game has potential to be competitive
2013-09-25 21:13.48 Dem: you don´t have to play this way
2013-09-25 21:13.59 DoDo: uhm .. slow people so can never see the ´real´ map ?..
2013-09-25 21:14.10 {MHM}BIOMECH: That is a side effect, yeah
2013-09-25 21:14.11 Dem: but not recognizing it exists is sad
2013-09-25 21:14.13 DoDo: thats sad. . and maybe could destroy their fun.
2013-09-25 21:14.26 Dem: slow people can see the map when no rec game is going on
2013-09-25 21:14.36 Dem: which is most of the time
2013-09-25 21:14.44 {MHM}BIOMECH: In other words, whenever there isn´t a rec player on the server
2013-09-25 21:14.55 Dem: you need several good players
2013-09-25 21:14.58 Dem: 1 person alone doesn´t do much
2013-09-25 21:15.07 {MHM}BIOMECH: I´ve seen hellfy and Unai screaming through maps
2013-09-25 21:15.10 Ben_Isotope: NOOOOOOOOOOO
2013-09-25 21:15.20 {MHM}BIOMECH: Complete ignoring their allies, leaving some enemies behind for others to deal with
2013-09-25 21:15.27 {MHM}BIOMECH: Can´t say I´ve ever wanted to join them
2013-09-25 21:15.28 Dem: that´s how you do it
2013-09-25 21:15.29 Ben_Isotope: cu later guys. i have to go becouse i cant loose haha
2013-09-25 21:15.35 {MHM}BIOMECH: lol
2013-09-25 21:15.39 Ben_Isotope: byee
2013-09-25 21:15.41 Dem: you expect noobs to do the cleanup
2013-09-25 21:15.42 Dem: cu
2013-09-25 21:15.46 DoDo: lol bb
2013-09-25 21:15.57 {MHM}BIOMECH: LOL
2013-09-25 21:16.04 {MHM}BIOMECH: Now how did you manage that
2013-09-25 21:16.23 Dem: bio do you have good knowledge of TGES1+2?
2013-09-25 21:16.24 DoDo: first i ws standing on u .. then u go away.. and left me here
2013-09-25 21:16.27 Dem: they call it cygma at times
2013-09-25 21:16.35 DoDo: lol bio
2013-09-25 21:16.35 DoDo: [nice.]
2013-09-25 21:16.51 {MHM}BIOMECH: Can´t tell TGES maps apart
2013-09-25 21:16.56 {MHM}BIOMECH: All look the same to me
2013-09-25 21:16.56 Dem: ok
2013-09-25 21:16.57 Dem: well
2013-09-25 21:17.03 Dem: at mid point in this one
2013-09-25 21:17.11 Dem: you have a bridge with brutes respawning
2013-09-25 21:17.17 Dem: but the path is open
2013-09-25 21:17.21 {MHM}BIOMECH: Oh yeah, that one
2013-09-25 21:17.22 Dem: so you can rush through if you want
2013-09-25 21:17.28 Dem: usually when going for rec
2013-09-25 21:17.30 {MHM}BIOMECH: The bridge over the chasm before a temple?
2013-09-25 21:17.36 Dem: no
2013-09-25 21:17.41 Dem: this is maboroshi
2013-09-25 21:17.45 {MHM}BIOMECH: Err
2013-09-25 21:17.49 Dem: tges3/4
2013-09-25 21:17.49 DoDo: little room with crates and tentacles after it
2013-09-25 21:17.51 Dem: doesn´t matter
2013-09-25 21:17.53 Dem: yes
2013-09-25 21:17.58 {MHM}BIOMECH: No idea.
2013-09-25 21:18.07 Dem: the repartition of the roles is as follows:
2013-09-25 21:18.13 {MHM}BIOMECH: lol
2013-09-25 21:18.14 Dem: good players rush and clean the front
2013-09-25 21:18.16 Dem: meanwhile
2013-09-25 21:18.23 Dem: noobs kill the first thing they see
2013-09-25 21:18.26 Dem: which is the brutes behind
2013-09-25 21:18.33 Dem: and they advance when the bridge is clear
2013-09-25 21:18.53 Dem: if everyone was killing brutes it would be a waste of time
2013-09-25 21:18.56 Dem: and the rec would be lower
2013-09-25 21:19.20 Dem: in an ideal situation all players are aware of what they´re doing
2013-09-25 21:19.22 {MHM}BIOMECH: Not sure I like the suggestion that the "good" players are the ones rushing the map
2013-09-25 21:19.27 Dem: but we don´t have enough players for that
2013-09-25 21:19.27 {MHM}BIOMECH: Aggroing everything, not helping
2013-09-25 21:19.34 Dem: so noobs usually do their role while having no idea about it
2013-09-25 21:19.37 DoDo: killing all should be more rewarded... :/
2013-09-25 21:19.46 Dem: you have a 30% teamscore boost dodo
2013-09-25 21:19.51 DoDo: but thats just my opinion
2013-09-25 21:19.58 DoDo: hmm
2013-09-25 21:19.59 Dem: it´s rewarded pretty well
2013-09-25 21:20.19 {MHM}BIOMECH: lol
2013-09-25 21:20.24 Dem: i wouldn´t mind behind the one behind doing the cleaning
2013-09-25 21:20.28 Dem: while others rush
2013-09-25 21:20.33 Dem: if it was efficient
2013-09-25 21:20.36 Dem: but sadly it´s not
2013-09-25 21:20.48 Dem: because we don´t have enough good players
2013-09-25 21:20.52 {MHM}BIOMECH: I´m really just in it for the fun of it
2013-09-25 21:21.06 Dem: i understand this
2013-09-25 21:21.08 {MHM}BIOMECH: If I see someone run into a room, piss off all the enemies, lure them all over
2013-09-25 21:21.12 {MHM}BIOMECH: Then leave without fighting them
2013-09-25 21:21.17 {MHM}BIOMECH: I don´t think "oh what a good player"
2013-09-25 21:21.25 {MHM}BIOMECH: I generally think "what a jackass"
2013-09-25 21:21.29 Dem: depends the context
2013-09-25 21:21.33 DoDo: hmm i guess its not my meaning of ´teamwork´ .. to split up to do something ´faster´..
2013-09-25 21:21.35 Dem: when you´re going for rec it´s good
2013-09-25 21:21.39 Dem: when you´re trolling around it´s not
2013-09-25 21:21.52 {MHM}BIOMECH: Hard to tell the difference sometimes, have to say
2013-09-25 21:21.59 DoDo: sure it would help for record.. but dunno...
2013-09-25 21:22.04 Dem: it generally relies on who does it lol
2013-09-25 21:22.06 DoDo: im notreally clear about this.. so
2013-09-25 21:22.17 DoDo: dunoo
2013-09-25 21:22.17 {MHM}BIOMECH: I have noticed that when people are going for recs, it usually seems to be other people who pay for it
2013-09-25 21:22.45 Dem: for recs you usually need the firepower from noobs
2013-09-25 21:22.52 Dem: but they don´t understand what to do
2013-09-25 21:22.56 Dem: that´s why they have the easy role
2013-09-25 21:23.51 Dem: splitting to do things faster is precisely my meaning of teamwork dodo
2013-09-25 21:24.09 DoDo: jea i know .. and in fact it IS in some way..
2013-09-25 21:24.20 Dem: you organize to make the team suceed
2013-09-25 21:24.22 Dem: +c
2013-09-25 21:24.23 DoDo: but i just love to keep together.. not mind about time ;)
2013-09-25 21:24.37 Dem: this is more like family then
2013-09-25 21:24.43 {MHM}BIOMECH: lol
2013-09-25 21:24.58 DoDo: u dont like family ?
2013-09-25 21:25.05 Dem: dunno if i told you that
2013-09-25 21:25.12 Dem: there was a game of maboroshi long ago once
2013-09-25 21:25.19 Dem: maybe in 2007 or 2008
2013-09-25 21:25.23 DoDo: lol
2013-09-25 21:25.28 DoDo: tales of the ut games..
2013-09-25 21:25.29 Dem: we got rec
2013-09-25 21:25.35 Dem: i didn´t shoot the entire game
2013-09-25 21:25.41 Dem: all i did was rushing and pushing buttons
2013-09-25 21:25.46 Dem: when dying i lost 0 score
2013-09-25 21:25.49 {MHM}BIOMECH: Sounds exciting
2013-09-25 21:25.50 {MHM}BIOMECH: xD
2013-09-25 21:26.11 Dem: it was very fun running around trying to survive while you couln´t take down a single target lol
2013-09-25 21:26.16 dU.Hyperion: what is happening here
2013-09-25 21:26.21 dU.Hyperion: what is this gathering
2013-09-25 21:26.28 {MHM}BIOMECH: Dem is trying to educate me about team records and their importance
2013-09-25 21:26.30 Dem: we´re having an argument about the meaning of life
2013-09-25 21:26.31 Djinn: hi all
2013-09-25 21:26.32 DoDo: gangbang
2013-09-25 21:26.37 dU.Hyperion: lol
2013-09-25 21:26.51 DoDo: a gay gangbang..
2013-09-25 21:26.55 Dem: i suggest we go on private serv and have a game of tges04
2013-09-25 21:26.56 {MHM}BIOMECH: Sigh :-
2013-09-25 21:27.20 DoDo: im in .. but im not in highscore mood
2013-09-25 21:27.21 Djinn: can i join ;)
2013-09-25 21:27.42 {MHM}BIOMECH: Er...
2013-09-25 21:27.44 Dem: i don´t care about recs on other servs than main lol
2013-09-25 21:27.46 {MHM}BIOMECH: Stuck XD
2013-09-25 21:27.50 DoDo: lol fem
2013-09-25 21:27.51 dU.Hyperion: ha
2013-09-25 21:27.55 DoDo: dem
2013-09-25 21:27.56 Dem: i´m just suggesting for bio to see how the map works
2013-09-25 21:28.06 dU.Hyperion: I don´t care about recs at all, am I wrong
2013-09-25 21:28.11 {MHM}BIOMECH: Is that the one with the temple and left and right everythings
2013-09-25 21:28.15 Dem: yes
2013-09-25 21:28.19 Dem: i´ll teach you
2013-09-25 21:28.21 Dem: I´LL TEACH YOU
2013-09-25 21:28.21 {MHM}BIOMECH: LeftCrystalPower = ON, that thing?
2013-09-25 21:28.23 Dem: NO FEAR
2013-09-25 21:28.24 Dem: yes
2013-09-25 21:28.32 {MHM}BIOMECH: That map always annoyed me
2013-09-25 21:28.34 {MHM}BIOMECH: So confusing
2013-09-25 21:28.39 {MHM}BIOMECH: Let me go :O
2013-09-25 21:28.39 Dem: hi djinnxpress
2013-09-25 21:28.50 Djinn: lolz
2013-09-25 21:28.51 dU.Hyperion: you got there by yourself
2013-09-25 21:28.54 dU.Hyperion: I did nothing
2013-09-25 21:28.58 {MHM}BIOMECH: Wasn´t expecting to get stcuk
2013-09-25 21:29.00 dU.Hyperion: so find a way to get out now xD
2013-09-25 21:29.06 dU.Hyperion: !
2013-09-25 21:29.07 {MHM}BIOMECH: Okay
2013-09-25 21:29.22 {MHM}BIOMECH: Koe is good at problem solving
2013-09-25 21:29.24 {MHM}BIOMECH: lol
2013-09-25 21:29.27 DoDo: djinn clean this up now..
2013-09-25 21:29.29 DoDo: !!!
2013-09-25 21:29.32 {MHM}BIOMECH: lol
2013-09-25 21:29.40 Dem: let´s go to private guys i´ll buy you ice cream
2013-09-25 21:29.43 {MHM}BIOMECH: lol
2013-09-25 21:29.47 DoDo: i m in!!!
2013-09-25 21:29.49 dU.Hyperion: oh, really!
2013-09-25 21:29.50 dU.Hyperion: me too!
2013-09-25 21:29.55 {MHM}BIOMECH: So easily swayed, dodo =P
2013-09-25 21:30.00 DoDo: lol
2013-09-25 21:30.00 Djinn: hahah
2013-09-25 21:30.02 Dem: !private
2013-09-25 21:30.08 {MHM}BIOMECH: Ehhh...
2013-09-25 21:30.08 dU.Hyperion: for the ice cream!
2013-09-25 21:30.12 dU.Hyperion: !private
2013-09-25 21:30.14 Djinn: !private
2013-09-25 21:30.17 {MHM}BIOMECH: I know how the map works :| Incredible slowly
2013-09-25 21:30.28 DoDo: vanilla .. and some strawberry joghurt .. for me or something
2013-09-25 21:30.35 DoDo: !private
2013-09-25 21:34.04 Krisa:
2013-09-25 21:34.07 Krisa: tgdghxvbz
2013-09-25 21:36.22 Mister: g